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This is a series I’m starting where I share the stories behind high stakes sales, negotiations, and presentations for major companies.
The mission is giving you a peek behind the curtain at how big opportunities are won (and lost), so you can accomplish bigger dreams in less time.
What follows below this intro is the time-stamped subtitle text if you prefer to read.
TRANSCRIPT 1 00:00:01,200 –> 00:00:07,520 @jonathan: Hello and welcome, I am Jonathan Pritchard, and this is a video in a series that I
2 00:00:07,760 –> 00:00:14,400 @jonathan: am cautiously calling Behind the boardroom, because a lot of my work I deal
3 00:00:14,720 –> 00:00:21,600 @jonathan: directly with C, E, Os and board members and the executive suite of very large
4 00:00:22,000 –> 00:00:27,840 @jonathan: companies. So a lot of folks uh, want to know what high stakes business involves
5 00:00:28,160 –> 00:00:34,400 @jonathan:: and what it looks like, So I want to share some of my stories that that uh, I’ve
6 00:00:34,640 –> 00:00:41,680 @jonathan: got to well share. So, anyway, this story has a lot of moving pieces, a lot going
7 00:00:41,920 –> 00:00:48,400 @jonathan: on, and multiple lessons that you can learn from it. So there’s a lot of context
8 00:00:48,800 –> 00:00:54,320 @jonathan: to create, which is, I’ve been working with a marketing company for a couple of
9 00:00:54,400 –> 00:01:00,320 @jonathan: years. They are absolutely phenomenal at what they do. They build websites, and
10 00:01:00,480 –> 00:01:04,480 @jonathan: then well, they, They’ve been around for about fifteen years, started building
11 00:01:04,640 –> 00:01:08,160 @jonathan: websites and then their clients after about two months will go. Hey, we love the
12 00:01:08,160 –> 00:01:12,480 @jonathan: website. Where’s all the traffic though, And that’s how they got started into the
13 00:01:12,640 –> 00:01:17,760 @jonathan: marketing side of things, Uh, paid advertising through Google and S. E O, and
14 00:01:18,160 –> 00:01:23,440 @jonathan: social media and email? Basically any way that you could make money on the
15 00:01:23,680 –> 00:01:29,600 @jonathan: Internet as a business? Well, they can help you get more eyeballs on what you’re
16 00:01:29,760 –> 00:01:36,400 @jonathan: doing. So they, uh, they are fantastic to work with, and they’ve asked me to
17 00:01:36,560 –> 00:01:42,640 @jonathan: basically architect their entire sales process from the conversation structure to
18 00:01:43,360 –> 00:01:50,080 @jonathan: the scripting the presentation skills, kind of top to bottom, uh, reorganizing the
19 00:01:50,320 –> 00:01:57,520 @jonathan: way that they land big opportunities. So there is one lead that I I worked with
20 00:01:57,760 –> 00:02:04,320 @jonathan: directly personally to talk to Because they are a company that has theyve. they’ve
21 00:02:04,400 –> 00:02:10,880 @jonathan: got some like eighty plus locations so they’ve got a lot of businesses all over,
22 00:02:11,360 –> 00:02:17,120 @jonathan: kind of the Southet of America. So they had an outdated website and they have some
23 00:02:17,360 –> 00:02:23,440 @jonathan: special considerations in that they wanted their website to be able to manage a
24 00:02:23,520 –> 00:02:29,520 @jonathan: lot of what their business does and what it needs to do. And they’ve got two
25 00:02:29,840 –> 00:02:32,240 @jonathan: brands that are pulling from the same
26 00:02:33,600 –> 00:02:40,400 @jonathan: database of resources, so I, I kind of have to stay a little uh, vague in these
27 00:02:40,720 –> 00:02:46,160 @jonathan: parts. Um, but y, you’ll get the idea, so they need their website to be able to do
28 00:02:46,400 –> 00:02:51,040 @jonathan: everything that one of their customers would want to do with the company, And
29 00:02:51,280 –> 00:02:55,840 @jonathan: whether it is brand A or brand Beep, doesn’t really matter because it’s all the
30 00:02:55,920 –> 00:03:01,600 @jonathan: same resource pool as far as they’re concerned, So it a lot of moving pieces. A
31 00:03:01,680 –> 00:03:04,400 @jonathan: lot of difficult, uh challenges, um,
32 00:03:05,600 –> 00:03:10,640 @jonathan: design wise and technology wise, and it wound up being that there’s this super
33 00:03:11,920 –> 00:03:19,440 @jonathan: superniche product and plug in for a website that allows our client to do what it
34 00:03:19,520 –> 00:03:26,640 @jonathan: is that they wanted their website to do. So I, I landed the opportunity and they
35 00:03:26,800 –> 00:03:32,800 @jonathan: said, Yep, we want you to build this thing And since I’m the relationship and
36 00:03:33,040 –> 00:03:37,920 @jonathan: vision guy, Well as soon as they say yes, Well, let me get you in touch with the
37 00:03:38,480 –> 00:03:43,200 @jonathan: the team who will actually do the work. I, I don’t actually implement anything.
38 00:03:43,600 –> 00:03:50,240 @jonathan: Let let’s just talk vision, so hand it off And then, as far as I know, a couple of
39 00:03:50,320 –> 00:03:52,720 @jonathan: months go by and it’s all good.
40 00:03:53,380 –> 00:03:54,380 @jonathan: Great
41 00:03:55,200 –> 00:03:56,720 @jonathan: About six months after,
42 00:03:57,700 –> 00:03:58,700 @jonathan: actually
43 00:04:01,600 –> 00:04:06,080 @jonathan: Sh. About nine months after I first started talking to them
44 00:04:07,360 –> 00:04:12,000 @jonathan: and then we agreed to do work together, and then nine months from day one that
45 00:04:11,920 –> 00:04:14,880 @jonathan: that we started talking. I get a call from
46 00:04:16,240 –> 00:04:20,720 @jonathan: one of the owners of the company saying hey, Um,
47 00:04:22,000 –> 00:04:23,840 @jonathan: you guys launched the website
48 00:04:24,960 –> 00:04:26,240 @jonathan: and it tanked our business.
49 00:04:27,520 –> 00:04:34,080 @jonathan: Um, I don’t know what’s going on, but I know for about the past month that the
50 00:04:34,240 –> 00:04:41,040 @jonathan: phone used to be ringing a lot. and now it’s not at all maybe one tenth as much as
51 00:04:41,200 –> 00:04:43,040 @jonathan: it used to. Um,
52 00:04:44,080 –> 00:04:47,680 @jonathan: I have no clue. but you guys need to fix this.
53 00:04:49,200 –> 00:04:55,680 @jonathan: Well. that’s not an easy phone call to get. And one. I’m going. Why, Why is he
54 00:04:55,760 –> 00:05:00,560 @jonathan: calling me on the ideas guy? but, oh right, I’m I’m the guy that told him that
55 00:05:00,800 –> 00:05:03,360 @jonathan: everything would be perfect. Well, okay,
56 00:05:04,640 –> 00:05:10,720 @jonathan: now that lights a fire under my ass to figure out what in the world is going on,
57 00:05:11,920 –> 00:05:18,000 @jonathan: So I use some tools. I don’t even talk to the the team that was doing the work.
58 00:05:18,400 –> 00:05:24,480 @jonathan: yet I wa to go in with a little bit of context of of what I’d be walking into, so
59 00:05:24,640 –> 00:05:31,280 @jonathan: use some tools to take a look at their their search rankings and how Google is
60 00:05:31,680 –> 00:05:38,320 @jonathan: seeing them, and for years they’ve been getting about fourteen, fifteen thousand
61 00:05:38,800 –> 00:05:43,200 @jonathan: visits per month. That translates to a lot of business to them,
62 00:05:44,220 –> 00:05:45,220 @jonathan: And then
63 00:05:45,920 –> 00:05:53,200 @jonathan: it’s basically the day the website launches their traffic tanks to fewer than a
64 00:05:53,340 –> 00:05:54,340 @jonathan: hundred per day.
65 00:05:56,400 –> 00:05:59,440 @jonathan: Almost overnight it goes from fifteen thousand
66 00:06:00,480 –> 00:06:02,480 @jonathan: to a hundred a day,
67 00:06:03,260 –> 00:06:04,260 @jonathan: which is
68 00:06:05,200 –> 00:06:11,680 @jonathan: deeply unsettling That that’s a huge huge issue. Big problem. So I reach out to
69 00:06:11,760 –> 00:06:17,280 @jonathan: the team and go. What in the world is going on? A Big Part of why they decided to
70 00:06:17,280 –> 00:06:24,480 @jonathan: go with us is that we know what is needed for S. e O and making Google happy. So
71 00:06:24,800 –> 00:06:27,040 @jonathan: what in the world did you guys do
72 00:06:28,080 –> 00:06:30,320 @jonathan: that made Google so mad,
73 00:06:31,360 –> 00:06:36,000 @jonathan: And then the team basically says we didn’t do it. It wasn’ us was say well, Okay,
74 00:06:36,160 –> 00:06:41,360 @jonathan: that’s nice, but you guys ah, need to have a better answer than that
75 00:06:42,380 –> 00:06:43,380 @jonathan: long story short.
76 00:06:44,480 –> 00:06:51,680 @jonathan: Turns out that we did the design work of the website and then the plug in guys
77 00:06:53,040 –> 00:06:59,200 @jonathan: locked us out of the website back end, so we didn’t even have hands on the website
78 00:06:59,600 –> 00:07:05,520 @jonathan: for about three months, as the plug in guys were working with the end client.
79 00:07:06,640 –> 00:07:12,560 @jonathan: And this relationship of us and the plug in team was very clear from the
80 00:07:12,640 –> 00:07:17,360 @jonathan: beginning. It. it wasn’t a underhanded or sneaky kind of white label thing. The
81 00:07:17,600 –> 00:07:22,160 @jonathan: Cim is very clear that this is a a separate team and this is the team that you
82 00:07:22,320 –> 00:07:26,960 @jonathan: have picked in order to build out this functionality And we’re bring. we’re
83 00:07:27,040 –> 00:07:32,400 @jonathan: building the framework and then they’re just gonna fit it in. Okay. Cool well,
84 00:07:33,520 –> 00:07:39,440 @jonathan: turns out that we hadn’t even touched the website in three months, and the owner
85 00:07:39,600 –> 00:07:45,920 @jonathan: that had called me was saying, And the the plug in guys say that it’s it has to do
86 00:07:46,080 –> 00:07:52,240 @jonathan: with with something you guys did. And so I’m finding out Okay, So we’re getting
87 00:07:52,480 –> 00:07:59,440 @jonathan: thrown under the bus by these plug in guys saying. Well, it was Jonathan’s team
88 00:07:59,940 –> 00:08:00,940 @jonathan: that that
89 00:08:01,760 –> 00:08:05,760 @jonathan: made this a dumpster fire. right, So
90 00:08:08,160 –> 00:08:14,240 @jonathan: the challenge then is to not look like you’re going. Well, na, it, it’s them.
91 00:08:15,440 –> 00:08:21,840 @jonathan: So part of the challenge was for me to help our client understand was like we’ve
92 00:08:21,920 –> 00:08:28,240 @jonathan: been locked out of the site for three months, so when it launched we wouldn’t have
93 00:08:28,640 –> 00:08:36,000 @jonathan: even been able to make those final checks. So this is when or these are the folks
94 00:08:36,160 –> 00:08:41,680 @jonathan: that pushed it live. Was something seriously wrong and we can’t even log in to see
95 00:08:41,840 –> 00:08:43,600 @jonathan: what that is, because
96 00:08:44,720 –> 00:08:49,360 @jonathan: they’re the folks that that pushed it live. and you are entirely correct that
97 00:08:49,920 –> 00:08:51,920 @jonathan: something here is very very wrong
98 00:08:53,920 –> 00:08:57,200 @jonathan: In having said all of that, I’m on it. I,
99 00:08:58,240 –> 00:09:02,400 @jonathan: I’m going to have some very strong conversations on your behalf. Let me go knock
100 00:09:02,640 –> 00:09:05,760 @jonathan: some heads, and I will. I’ll be in touch
101 00:09:06,880 –> 00:09:08,080 @jonathan: and this was about
102 00:09:09,280 –> 00:09:15,920 @jonathan: about uh, twenty minutes before I had a a scheduled, uh lunch on the books with my
103 00:09:16,080 –> 00:09:19,760 @jonathan: wife, because if if it’s not on the calendar, it’s not real, so schedule
104 00:09:19,840 –> 00:09:25,440 @jonathan: everything guys. So I go to have lunch with my wife, and
105 00:09:26,640 –> 00:09:32,800 @jonathan: and we’re literally in line to get barbecue, and it hits me I go. wait a minute.
106 00:09:33,600 –> 00:09:38,720 @jonathan: It can’t be. it can’t be this. It can’t be the simple because
107 00:09:40,320 –> 00:09:44,720 @jonathan: their website had tanked and it had stayed tanked for a month
108 00:09:45,840 –> 00:09:51,040 @jonathan: before the owner of the company reached out to me to say Hey, what’s going on? and
109 00:09:52,080 –> 00:09:58,640 @jonathan: from that fifteen thousand visits per day across the the website for two websites
110 00:09:59,120 –> 00:10:03,840 @jonathan: and the amount of money that they’re doing this is over a million dollar problem,
111 00:10:04,880 –> 00:10:11,600 @jonathan: and this is a million dollar problem with what I’m pretty sure might be a one
112 00:10:11,620 –> 00:10:12,620 @jonathan: dollar fix
113 00:10:13,680 –> 00:10:16,080 @jonathan: because part of my background was
114 00:10:17,120 –> 00:10:23,040 @jonathan: about fifteen years ago. I built websites for entertainers. My educational
115 00:10:23,200 –> 00:10:28,400 @jonathan: background is in traditional art and painting. So I’ve I’ve always loved visual
116 00:10:28,560 –> 00:10:30,080 @jonathan: communication and
117 00:10:31,200 –> 00:10:35,840 @jonathan: a lot of my friends are world class performers. but they don’t have good design.
118 00:10:36,160 –> 00:10:41,840 @jonathan: Since they. they don’t know how to create visuals. So we would be at a conference
119 00:10:42,080 –> 00:10:46,800 @jonathan: and I would see their promotional materials And it looks like somebody made it on
120 00:10:46,960 –> 00:10:51,360 @jonathan: Microsoft Word. and I would ask them like, Who’s who’s your designer? Who made
121 00:10:51,440 –> 00:10:55,120 @jonathan: this And they’re like, Oh, I did on Microsoft Word. I’m like Okay, it because it
122 00:10:55,200 –> 00:11:00,240 @jonathan: looks like a you. You really need need some help. So I started building their
123 00:11:00,320 –> 00:11:05,040 @jonathan: websites and then their show posters and their postcards and their D v d cases
124 00:11:05,200 –> 00:11:11,040 @jonathan: back when D v Ds were a thing, so that they would have a unified branding. Well, I
125 00:11:11,120 –> 00:11:18,000 @jonathan: had always used Word press, so I’m really really familiar with Word press, and I’m
126 00:11:18,160 –> 00:11:24,400 @jonathan: in line with my wife, and and it clicks nego. I think I figured it out.
127 00:11:25,580 –> 00:11:26,580 @jonathan: Let let me see.
128 00:11:27,500 –> 00:11:28,500 @jonathan: So I send
129 00:11:29,520 –> 00:11:34,880 @jonathan: the c. e o in email from my phone while I’m in line to order barbecue.
130 00:11:35,920 –> 00:11:39,200 @jonathan: By the time lunch is done and I get back to
131 00:11:39,780 –> 00:11:40,780 @jonathan: here.
132 00:11:41,580 –> 00:11:42,580 @jonathan: He tells me
133 00:11:44,000 –> 00:11:47,920 @jonathan: the problem was there and I fixed it. We’ll see what happens
134 00:11:49,280 –> 00:11:57,200 @jonathan: and it turned out that there’s this option in word press. It’s a single check box.
135 00:11:57,680 –> 00:12:01,280 @jonathan: That’s a, a single check box that says Discourage
136 00:12:02,800 –> 00:12:07,840 @jonathan: we web crawlers from crawling the site or however, it’s worded, It’s basically a.
137 00:12:08,560 –> 00:12:13,840 @jonathan: Do you want Google to be aware of this or do you want Google to ignore you?
138 00:12:14,880 –> 00:12:16,000 @jonathan: And somehow
139 00:12:17,280 –> 00:12:24,160 @jonathan: both of the websites had been launched with that little check box? Checked. That’s
140 00:12:24,320 –> 00:12:27,440 @jonathan: it. That’s the. That was the whole. That was the whole issue.
141 00:12:28,580 –> 00:12:29,580 @jonathan: So this company
142 00:12:30,720 –> 00:12:34,160 @jonathan: had lost out on more than a million dollars of revenue,
143 00:12:35,200 –> 00:12:39,200 @jonathan: and the fix was knowing which check box to uncheck,
144 00:12:40,060 –> 00:12:41,060 @jonathan: and then
145 00:12:41,920 –> 00:12:47,600 @jonathan: that was on Friday, like at one or two in the afternoon, and then Monday rolls
146 00:12:47,840 –> 00:12:54,480 @jonathan: around, and their organic traffic had already started to to come back. So it was a
147 00:12:55,120 –> 00:13:00,640 @jonathan: a literal example of that probably apocryphal story about the the guy getting
148 00:13:00,960 –> 00:13:06,240 @jonathan: brought into the to the factory who hits a machine with a hammer and it starts
149 00:13:06,400 –> 00:13:09,920 @jonathan: back up. And then when the owner asked them okay, what’s the charge? Goes ten
150 00:13:10,080 –> 00:13:13,440 @jonathan: thousand dollars, Becausees ten thousand dollars, he goes absolutely one dollar
151 00:13:13,600 –> 00:13:17,120 @jonathan: for the hammer, nine thousand, nine hundred, ninety nine dollars, to know where to
152 00:13:17,200 –> 00:13:23,280 @jonathan: hit it, And that is literally what happened with this multi millionll dollar
153 00:13:23,600 –> 00:13:32,400 @jonathan: company. So those tiny tiny details have huge impacts on the success or failure of
154 00:13:32,640 –> 00:13:34,480 @jonathan: a company or relationship.
155 00:13:35,680 –> 00:13:38,240 @jonathan: So the fact that the relationship guy
156 00:13:39,280 –> 00:13:40,320 @jonathan: solved this problem
157 00:13:41,440 –> 00:13:43,200 @jonathan: in line for lunch
158 00:13:44,560 –> 00:13:51,600 @jonathan: was a clear demonstration that Okay, this team is the team that we need for long
159 00:13:51,840 –> 00:13:54,240 @jonathan: term help. So from there
160 00:13:55,600 –> 00:14:01,440 @jonathan: we we landed a opportunity to help them on the business stability side and making
161 00:14:01,760 –> 00:14:08,080 @jonathan: sure that Um, their s e o is resilient and not just coasting from good practices,
162 00:14:08,320 –> 00:14:13,600 @jonathan: but actively putting in energy to get even more eyeballs. So me being able to
163 00:14:13,680 –> 00:14:19,520 @jonathan: solve that issue for them was a huge trust builder by demonstrating competence,
164 00:14:20,320 –> 00:14:25,840 @jonathan: which gave them the confidence that we would be able to help them on the the
165 00:14:26,160 –> 00:14:33,120 @jonathan: marketing and and lead flow side of things as well. So that’s just uh, an example
166 00:14:33,680 –> 00:14:39,440 @jonathan: of kind of high stakes business. And how sometimes the answers are ridiculously
167 00:14:39,840 –> 00:14:47,200 @jonathan: simple, but ▁ultra important. And if you don’t know those details well, then the
168 00:14:47,280 –> 00:14:52,880 @jonathan: answer is a mystery to you, so kind of like from my background in magic and
169 00:14:52,960 –> 00:14:58,400 @jonathan: mentalism, Oftentimes the way that it works. The method is very simple, but the
170 00:14:58,500 –> 00:14:59,500 @jonathan: effect is
171 00:15:00,560 –> 00:15:05,680 @jonathan: disproportionate to the amount of effort required. So it’s it’s kind of uh. There
172 00:15:05,760 –> 00:15:10,640 @jonathan: was a magician. I think it was Marshall Brodine who used to say Magic is easy once
173 00:15:10,880 –> 00:15:15,920 @jonathan: you know how if it wasn’t Marsha Brodine, Uh, well, I’ll look it up on Google
174 00:15:16,160 –> 00:15:20,480 @jonathan: after this, but anyway, uh, the the idea of being that magic is easy Once you know
175 00:15:20,560 –> 00:15:26,720 @jonathan: how well so is business. So is success. So is life, and as one of my mentors told
176 00:15:26,880 –> 00:15:30,800 @jonathan: me, Uh, no better, do better. don’t beat yourself up if you didn’t know any
177 00:15:30,960 –> 00:15:33,600 @jonathan: better, but now you do, so take care of it.
178 00:15:34,720 –> 00:15:41,200 @jonathan: Yeah, so there’s a. There’s a lot packed into that story and, and it’s kind of a a
179 00:15:41,360 –> 00:15:48,160 @jonathan: great case study for the very strange kinds of problems and situations that I
180 00:15:48,480 –> 00:15:54,560 @jonathan: really really love helping my clients with. So if you’ve got a very strange
181 00:15:55,440 –> 00:15:59,920 @jonathan: business challenge or opportunity that you would like another set of eyeballs on,
182 00:16:00,640 –> 00:16:05,520 @jonathan: feel free to reach out. Um, you? you’re not going to weird me out. I dare you to
183 00:16:05,600 –> 00:16:11,520 @jonathan: bring me a problem I haven’t seen before, So that’s that’s it for now. And uh,
184 00:16:11,760 –> 00:16:16,720 @jonathan: yeah, I guess this will be the the first installation of the Behind the Boardroom
185 00:16:17,200 –> 00:16:23,040 @jonathan: series. And if you have any kinds of topics or questions about sales negotiation
186 00:16:23,440 –> 00:16:30,000 @jonathan: presentation skills, Um, anything like that, shoot me a message on Twitter through
187 00:16:30,240 –> 00:16:36,720 @jonathan: email. ridiculously easy to get a hold of at. I can read Mines Dot com, So yeah,
188 00:16:37,040 –> 00:16:40,160 @jonathan: that’s it for now, and I will see you in the next video.